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Complaint 202983 Details

Below is my correspondence with a scammer that I found here. We posted my husbands motorcycle on Craigslist b/c we needed money to make ends meet b/c I lost my job, and all along the guy was just trying to scam us. BEWARE!

From: Tom Miles <[email protected]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:01 AM
Subject: I've Made Te Payment Cindy...........................................2002 GSXR 750 6820 miles - $4000 (Southwest Houston)
Thanks Cindy
I have just complete the payment,am sure you must have been notified of the payment,you can check your e-mail inbox or spam folder for confirmation of payment, I made the payment of 5,000:00,i added $800 as stated earlier and all charges paid

Please transfer the $700 to the pick up so they can schedule time and date PayPal said they will hold the funds until they verify western union information from you due to the fact that i inform them about the excess fund transfered in the process.please send the $700 to my pick up agent Headquarters where they normally confirm any commission payment to via western union money transfer.(this can be done from the western union outlet,or online and can have it through Wallmart, i added extra $100 to cover the western union charges which shouldn't be more the amount offered, Here is my pick up agent Headquarter info needed for the transfer

Name : Chelsea Yrias
City : Saginaw,
State : Michigan
Zipcode : 48602
Country : United State.

Please kindly email the necessary details to paypal :the mtcn number which you will be given at the western union after the $700 has been sent as well as the sender's name and address used to send the money through western union,i have forward your address to the agent to schedule time and date

Warmest Regards

Tom

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:33 AM, @yahoo.com> wrote:

Tom,

We do have one other person interested in the bike, and they scheduled to bring a down payment Wednesday. Will you be able to make the payment by Wednesday morning, so that we can cancel the scheduled meeting with them. I say Wednesday morning, b/c I would like to let them know in advance that the bike has sold. I spoke with my husband, and he agrees that we can make transport arrangements as you have outlined, that is as soon as I can get paypal to release the funds to my bank account.


Cindy
From: Tom Miles <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:08 AM
Subject: Please Note This Cindy...........................................2002 GSXR 750 6820 miles - $4000 (Southwest Houston)
Hi Cindy,
I had this little problem with the picking it up.they won't come and pick up unless i pay the agent commission fee to schedule time/date and the agent Headquarters in Michigan, All commission payments made for pick up from anywhere in the state is sent to their HQ and the form of payments they accept is western union and i try to make this happen online but i will need a credit card which i didn't bring along.i will include the $700.00 USD to your payment which they charged me to pick up & disassemble it to my Dad home (1st class treatment),You will help me send the agent fee to the HQ,through western union money transfer.

I will make total payment of $5,000.00 USD to your paypal account and $4,200.00 USD for the Item,$700.00 USD for the Pick-Up fee and will be adding $100.00 USD for Western Union Charges.i will forward your address to schedule time and date for Pick-Up when i complete the payment

Regards

Tom

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:43 PM, [email protected]> wrote:

Tom,

I will be available for pickup beginning Friday, granted the payment goes as planned. Please let me know the date the bike will be transported as soon as possible to ensure that someone is here that can get it out. Also, I would prefer to mail the title to your dad via Certified Mail or FedEx Overnight to reach him the expected date of delivery by the transporter, as I don't want it to be lost in transit. Please provide his address. Our address is 16278 Indian Mill, Houston, TX 77082.


From: Tom Miles <[email protected]>
To: (Personal Information Removed)
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: I'll Proceed Asap Cindy...........................................2002 GSXR 750 6820 miles - $4000 (Southwest Houston)

Thanks Cindy,

I appreciate your respose and it's typing error sending a message to colleage Joseph at the same time,Am Tom and i will proceed with the payment soon,I'll be intouch with the mover/pick up agent in the mean time,I will need your address as well on the process.Expect the payment soon

Regards

Tom
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:27 PM, [email protected]> wrote:

so...is your name Tom or Joseph? I just set up the paypal and it is attached to [email protected]. I will confirm with my husband about sealing the deal, and get back with you this evening.

[email protected]
From: Tom Miles <[email protected]>
To:(Personal Information Removed)
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:02 PM

Subject: Get Back Asap............................................2002 GSXR 750 6820 miles - $4000 (Southwest Houston)
Thanks ,

I appreciate your prompt response and yes i understand your point but there won't be any reversal on the payment so no problem about that and i can't use USAA at the moment but only paypal for now,I hope you can get back to me with your valid email attached to your paypal

Regards

Joseph

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Cindy Norred <(Personal Information Removed)> wrote:

Tom,

I am slightly uneasy about making this transaction through paypal, as I have never utilized these services. While reading through the user agreement I came across a section that increases my anxiety see below:

4.4 Risk of Reversals, Chargebacks and Claims. When you receive a payment, you are liable to PayPal for the full amount of the payment sent to you plus any Fees if the payment is later invalidated for any reason. This means that, in addition to any other liability, you will be responsible for the amount of the payment sent by the sender, plus the applicable Fees listed in Section 8 (Fees) of this Agreement if you lose a Claim or a Chargeback or if there is a Reversal of the payment. You agree to allow PayPal to recover any amounts due to PayPal by debiting your Balance. If there are insufficient funds in your Balance to cover your liability, you agree to reimburse PayPal through other means. If a sender of a payment files a Chargeback, the credit card issuer, not PayPal, will determine who wins the Chargeback.

I have been burned before, and can not help but be leery. As you are an Officer in the USAF would you happen to bank with USAA? I do have a USAA account, and a transfer could be made for the payment. I apologize for the inconvenience, but the whole reason my husband is selling the motorcycle is because I lost my job, and we can not afford another burn at this point. If this works for you let me know, if not we will go through Pay Pal.


[email protected]
From: Tom Miles <[email protected]>
To: (Personal Information Removed)
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 3:27 PM

Subject: Get Back Asap............................................2002 GSXR 750 6820 miles - $4000 (Southwest Houston)
Thanks Cindy and getting a new tire is not a problem at all and yes all you have to do is log on www.paypal.com to set up one and i wouldn't have bother you if i can get any other means Keep me posted with your valid email attached when you are done with the process,Regards

Tom

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 3:16 PM,(Personal Information Removed) wrote:

The bike does need new tires, and the trunk lid flew off on an Austin trip and has some damage to it, other than that the bike is clean. I need to set up a paypal account, unless there is any other method of payment available.

Cindy
From: Tom Miles <[email protected]>
To: (Personal Information Removed)
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:29 AM
Subject: Get Back Asap............................................2002 GSXR 750 6820 miles - $4000 (Southwest Houston)
Thanks,
I appreciate your prompt response and i hope it's in good condition as stated on the address..? am buying it for my Dad as a surprise gift in Michigan,i will arrange mover that will pick it up.I hope you don't mind if i use paypal to process the transaction...?as am requesting this transaction should be done via PayPal so the charges is on me, I'm presently out of town deployed,Am in air force, Chief Master Sergent USAF.sorry i won't be able to come over to look at it in person and only reason why am trying to pay from my PayPal at the moment. I hope we can make the purchase as soon as possible? you can get back to me with the following details
1: Your email attached to your paypal
2: I'll be offering you $4,200
3: Your contact address
Cordially
Tom

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM, (Personal Information Removed) wrote:



It is still available.


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On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 9:54 AM CST Tom Miles wrote:

>Hi,
>
> Confirm it the listing available for sale,.... I'll like to see the
>recent picture
>
>Thanks