Butterlfy Labs
Complaint 221834 Details

  • Date Occurred: 03/16/2013
  • Reported Damages: $6,500.00
  • Location: 10770 El Monte, Leawood, KS 66211
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The complaint is against an online dating profile

The complaint is a listing fraud posted on public forums or sites against an anonymous entity

The complaint is mobile text spam or smishing related against an anonymous entity

The company or person contact no longer exists

International boundaries

Let`s file a lawsuit against Butterfly Labs!

My order number with BFL was 14821, pay-dated 12/12/2012. I asked for a
refund, but I only got 60 BTC and not 193 BTC as I initially sent. I saw
a similar "locked thread" on their forums where other folks had the same problem. I
paid in BTC, I want my BTC back. I even called Butterfly Labs and the
person on the phone was able to produce only two phrases over a 5 min
discussion/monologue :

- "we wouldn`t have had this conversation
if the price of BTC went down" - totally absurd taking into account the
current situation... It`s like saying that the sun won`t rise tomorrow
morning. BTC is far from fall.
- "that`s not gonna happen" - I think
it will happen and it must happen since BFL is making money out of
buying and selling BTC with funds received as preorders.

What
most folks here don`t realize is that BFL DOESN`T NEED TO PRODUCE A
VALID PRODUCT, they only need to keep the charade going for as much as
possible. THEY ARE MAKING MONEY WITH YOUR MONEY and think that are going
to get away with it.

Moreover, when I placed my order, I read a post on BFL
forums written by Josh himself (accused of fraud... another coincidence
maybe) in which he stated that refunds can be made in BTC upon "special
request". Of course, the post has magically vanished.....

As educated consumers, we have the right to defend ourselves against this very well elaborated scam. We can:

-
file a common law suit (I am open to offers from any attorney willing to take them to court)
- speak out online. Use websites like ripoffreport.com, ic3.gov to ask for your money back.
-
sooner or later law enforcement will come down hard on the company
(unless they are already on to it), so time is the essence here.
-
don`t be afraid or ashamed to speak out. It is your money and you have
the right to fight for it. Strength lies in numbers, let`s bring down
the scammers!

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  • BFLabs
  • BFLabs SBID #78d51b9f4a
  • Posted 03/22/2013
  • All of our products are sold for US Dollars. We use a third party company to handle the Bitcoin payments. Bitcoin should be viewed like any international currency that requires exchange for purchases. Any transaction is exchanged at the current rate at the time of transaction. This would be the same for the Euro, British Pound and Bitcoin. For example, if a customer had a debit card in Europe and used it to purchase a product in US Dollars, the bank would convert the transaction into US Dollars at the current exchange rate, at the time of transaction. If the customer requested a refund, for the same product, the company would refund the money in US Dollars and the bank would exchange the money back into Euros at the current exchange rate rather than the rate at the initial purchase. This transaction is no different than that. We don't set the market rate for Bitcoins. If the Bitcoin had gone down in price, we would still be responsible for paying the full amount in US Dollars.

    This is our third generation of machines that we are selling. We delivered all of our previous generations' orders. We have even offered our previous generations' customers the opportunity to trade their equipment in for 100% value towards a new machine.

    Our doors are always open to any and all visitors to see our facility.
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  • Simon
  • Simon SBID #643c01243d
  • Posted 11/15/2013
  • I assume you spelled "Butterfly Labs"! I added the correct company name here: http://www.scambook.com/company/view/151948/Butterfly-Labs and filed in a related complaint about Butterfly Labs: http://www.scambook.com/report/view/286968/Butterfly-Labs-Complaint-286968-for-$362.00
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  • Complaints Filed: 2
  • Reported Damages: $68,500.00
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