Charles Byron Hall
Complaint 17972 Details

I was interested in a car but got very suspecious on the amount based on the car and have several e-mails from this person and over 2 months I played with this person but finally when I said we're good to go but wanted a friend to review the car before I sent any money I never heard from Charles again.

I'll attached one of the e-mails as I think the person does this on a regular bases.

From: Tom Kippley
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 6:18 AM
To: Charles Byron Hall
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

Hey Charles,

I hope you’re ok with my proceedings because $2,700 is a lot to me so I need to take this one step at a time. Next, I have relation and friends in the area and based on where the car is I’d like to have one of them see the car so that I’m confident that the car is what it is, and I believe I can make that happen next week to keep this moving along. Respond accordingly as to what works with your wife to show the car and I’ll work it out so my sister in law can meet, etc.

Thanks

Tom

From: Charles Byron Hall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:57 AM
To: Tom Kippley
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

Tom can I know the status of the transaction?

Thank you,

Charles Byron Hall


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From: (Personal Information Removed)
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 05:43:24 -0400
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car
Wow,

Good that you sent me this as the address is not even close.

Here’s my address again:

884 E.24th Str.
Holland, MI 49423
United States

Please get this corrected and send me this again.

Thanks

Tom

From: Charles Byron Hall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:31 PM
To: Tom Kippley
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

Here is the invoice from them.

Thank you,

Charles Byron Hall

eBay sent this message to Thomas L. Kippley.
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.


Invoice for Payment - eBay Motors Transaction #65C4T128L3W89


Invoice for Transaction Case ID 65C4T128L3W89 between Charles Byron Hall as the Seller and Thomas L. Kippley as the
Buyer. Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely.

* Seller:

Name:
Address: Charles Byron Hall
1411 Main St.
Dallas, TX ,75202
United States

* Buyer: ( Shipping Address )

Name:
Address: Thomas L. Kippley
(Personal Information Removed)









Vehicle Details




* 1991 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4

$2.700
Insurance: Yes
Date: 18-May-2011
Status: Payment Pending
Buyer: Thomas L. Kippley
Seller: Charles Byron Hall




Important Notice

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To complete the transaction, payment must be made in person at a Western Union agent location using Western Union wire transfer (person to person) service.


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Send the payment using eBay Motors Agent's payment details.
E-mail* eBay Motors Financial Department the following payment information:
Case ID # and Invoice Number
Money Transfer Control Number- 10 digits number found on the payment receipt
Senders Name and Address ( the person who sends the payment)
Receivers Name and Address ( the person who receivers the payment, in this case our eBay Agent )
Total Amount Sent
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First Name: Patrick
Last Name: Trambauer
Address: 505 Trowbrook Rd
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ZipCode: 3035
Country:
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Shipping
Seller provides shipping through DAS AUTO COMPANY. * Payment:

Invoice# : 65C4T128L3W89
Due Date: 18-May-2011


Subtotal: $2.700
Shipping: $0
Sales Tax: $0


Deposit: $0
________________________________________
Total: $2.700





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From: (Personal Information Removed)
To: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 15:15:35 -0400
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car
Can they copy you when they send it so you can see that they did? I’m thinking maybe their messages are auto deleting for whatever reason when they are sent.

Tom

From: Charles Byron Hall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:57 AM
To: Tom Kippley
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

I have called eBay and they said that you should receive the invoice from them. They will resend it again. You should check your inbox and bulk folder maybe is there.
Keep in touch.

Thank you,

Charles Byron Hall
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From: (Personal Information Removed)
To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:07:23 -0400
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car
Still have not heard a word or seen an e-mail from them.

Curious, were the pic’s you had out there recent ones?

Tom

From: Charles Byron Hall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:38 PM
To: Tom Kippley
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

Tom I have just contacted eBay and they said that you should receive the invoice from them. Also they resend it today so you can check your inbox and bulk folder. Let me know.

Thank you,

Charles Byron Hall
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From: (Personal Information Removed)
To: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 21:50:59 -0400
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car
Hey Charles,

I’m assuming this process all takes time, but wanted you to know I’ve not heard anything from eBay. I’m in no rush, just checking in.

Tom

From: Charles Byron Hall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:14 AM
To: Tom Kippley
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

Thomas I got your email. I will forward it to eBay so they can initiate the transaction between us. We will keep in touch.

Thank you,

Charles Byron Hall
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From: (Personal Information Removed)
To: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 22:56:01 -0400
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car
Thomas L. Kippley


(Personal Information Removed)

From: Tom Kippley
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 6:08 AM
To: Charles Byron Hall
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

Charles,

How long once we start this does it take to get the vehicle? The reason I ask is because we’re traveling later this week and through the next weekend.

Thanks

Tom

From: Charles Byron Hall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 9:14 PM
To: Tom Kippley
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

The price of the car $2,700 includes all the shipping costs and handling.
The car is located in Dallas,TX at a shipping and storage company. The sale will be managed through eBay under their Vehicle Purchase Protection Program since they offer the highest rate of safety and reliability during online transactions.Here is how it works :
- you give me your full name and shipping address
- I start a transaction with eBay,
- they send you the payment instructions,
- you send the money into eBay trust account,
- they confirm me that the payment was received,
- I ship the car,
- you receive the car in 3 days,
- they send me the money.

The payment type will be establish by eBay after start the transaction. They will hold the money until the car is delivered to you, with properly executed title. You have 5 days for the inspection period. If the car is not like described you will have to ship it back in 30 business days on my expense, but I am sure that you will love it.

In order to move forward I will need the following info from you so I can set up a new transaction case through eBay:
1. full name
2. shipping address
3. phone number

Thank you,

Charles Byron Hall
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From:(Personal Information Removed)
To: [email protected]
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:30:12 -0400
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car
Ok, this is new to me so sorry but how does this work, can I see the car? Explain!

From: Charles Byron Hall [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2011 6:55 PM
To: Tom Kippley
Subject: RE: Somewhat interested in Car

First of all I want to tell you that I am not selling this car for profit or due a lack of money. All I can say is that some recent events in my life made me change my perception of certain things, things that I’ve considered important in the past. I will donate all money to charity after I sell this car. I am currently on a trip for UNICEF.
The car has a clear title, is in an excellent condition, no dents or scratches, it was always garaged and regular maintenance and oil changes were done in time. Hasn’t been involved in an accident or flood damage. The motor runs very well. I don’t want to offend you but the car is priced for a fast sale so please if you intend to apply for a loan or financing do not reply.
The transaction will be made through eBay company for the safety of both. I’ve already included the car into eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection, so I will sell only through this.
If you want to buy the car, and you agree with my terms please reply so I can give you a detailed description of the eBay Vehicle Purchase Protection.
Waiting for your reply.

Thank you,

Charles Byron Hall
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From: (Personal Information Removed)
To: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:45:28 -0400
Subject: Somewhat interested in Car
How long have you owned the car, what types of things made need to be done to it, and when can it be seen/driven?

I’m from Holland so I’m curious how far I would have to drive to see it.

Tom Kippley
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